A Poor Shepherd?

The Concern: Today I was 'grabbed' by the two college students who raved about Tres Dias and their recent 'wonderful' experience in that group. They specifically had sought me out and engaged me during our church anniversary dinner on the grounds.

The Response: Whoa! Sure looks like you were targeted for proselytizing, doesn't it? Who do you reckon might have pointed you out for special attention? Could it be that your pastor set the Tres Dias dogs on you? If that were the case, I'd be getting myself as far away as possible –and as quickly as possible—from a congregation that was being led by a preacher who proselytizes for an heretical cult. But that's me.

More Information: When I asked what was so great about Tres Dias. they said that it is like a surprise birthday party and if they told me all about it that would spoil it for others who might go. They said not every one is invited because it is not right for everyone. It should be more for those who are mature, not brand new believers who need "baby food." I spoke to my pastor about this. He was no help. The young lady we baptized today was saved about four or five months ago and the pastor has just sponsored her to go a Tres Dias gathering. I need help with this. I feel like I am going to explode, it is upsetting me so much.

More Response: Kinda makes one wonder, doesn't it? Who are the Tres Dias pimps targeting? It may be that they were going after newly reborn Christians and what they told you was a smoke screen. Those recently grafted into the Body of Christ likely have little knowledge or understanding of sound doctrine and, for this reason, might more easily be deceived. It is a simple matter to indoctrinate such persons by using words and practices of false piety.

On the other hand, the people who talked with may have been lining up believers who have their feet firmly planted in the Scriptures and who confront error when they perceive it. Mind-control groups such as Tres Dias may want to capture the minds of more mature believers who are aware of the evil that such groups represent. Even a believer who is solidly grounded in the Scripture could be snared by brain-numbing tactics and then indoctrinated into a false doctrinal system.

It does no good to become upset. Usually, we choose how we react to issues or confrontation. We can choose to acknowledge the issue dispassionately or emotionally. I believe that one is better able to deal with issues when thoughts are not roiled by waves of emotion.

Looking at your feelings from a spiritual viewpoint, I would suggest you ask yourself how your anger or upset serves our Lord.

19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.--Romans 12:19-21, KJV

You have made your concerns known to your pastor and to the hounds he apparently sent to either silence you or drag you into the swamps of false doctrine. I do not doubt that you have communicated your concerns to some members of your congregation. You have sounded the alarm. Whether those people respond positively to your alert is something that each one of them must decide for himself. Consider God's words to the prophet Ezekiel when Israel was in rebellion against God:

16 And it came to pass at the end of seven days, that the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.--Ezekiel 3:16-21, KJV

Granted, the congregation of your church is not Israel, and you are not Ezekiel, but I believe that there is a lesson in this passage from the Old Testament. Our God does not change.(Malachi 3:6) I doubt that His attitude toward spiritual rebellion has mellowed over the past 2600 years. That is something to think on. Though even saints can fall for well-delivered lies, we will never know spiritual death.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.--John 5:24, KJV

Another Concern: I feel like I cannot walk away from my church without some straight answers regarding the organization from my pastor.

Another Reponse: If you found yourself in a burning house, would you get out as quickly as you could? Or would you hang around searching to discover more about the fire? Though I cannot know the details of what is happening in your church, from what you have shared, it would appear that your church is the house and your pastor the fire. My considered advice to you is the same as Jesus gave to the Twelve when He sent them to the lost sheep of Israel:

12 And when ye come into an house, salute it.
13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.--Matthew 10:12-13, KJV

The Final Concern: I feel like kicking and screaming and hollering to get someone to listen to me! I am not being heard. Are they all clueless? I don't want to leave this church without being heard. Is that so wrong?

The Final Response: Did everyone to whom Jesus went listen to Him? How about Paul? Or Peter? Did the Pharisees listen to Stephen? As believers, our work is to glorify God, take the Gospel to the nations, edify the Body of Christ and confront doctrinal error. Surely, when we see a brother going astray, we should reach out to him and do our best to help him get his feet back on the narrow path. We have no power to compel anyone to turn aside from what is wrongful. We do our job and leave the rest in the hands of the Lord. We are not responsible for how others respond to our work; each of us will stand before the Perfect Judge.

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.--Matthew 25:31-33 , KJV

Scripture informs that Jesus, Paul and Peter preached the Gospel of the Kingdom of God and performed miracles; yet not everyone believed their message. The writers of the letters in the New Testament warned of false teachings and false teachers. Just a few minutes spent watching media ministers on TV should convince all but the most hard-hearted viewer that not everyone heeds those warnings. Is it reasonable to demand that your pastor and other members of your congregation heed your warnings when they apparently do not heed the God-breathed warnings in Scripture?

I may well be wrong, but I sense wounded pride in your words and in your actions. You have done the godly thing. You have confronted error and warned at least your pastor. They apparently are ignoring your warnings. What is the next step; to beat them over the head with your Bible? Moses, acting for the Lord, gave Pharaoh plenty of warnings and backed them up with miracles. Yet Pharaoh's heart had been hardened by the Lord God and he would not listen. Could it be possible that God has hardened the hearts of your pastor and others who are wearing his yoke? You have carried out your mission. Why not now leave the matter in God's hands? Why not seek out a congregation in a church where doctrine is validated by God's Word and not the whims of an apparently worldly pastor?

Tres Dias basically is nothing more than the Catholic cursillo movement dressed up in Protestant clothes. To read in detail how this ecumenincal mind-control cult functions, I urge readers to read here. I suspect that many who take the time to read this illuminating study will be surprised. Check it out. See if YOUR pastor has been hoodwinked by Catholic infiltrators.

Readers might also be interested in getting an “outsider's view” of a program that has gained a lot of ground in some Protestant religious communions. The Experiencing God program originated in a workbook, written by Henry T. Blackaby and Claude V. King, called Experiencing God, Knowing and Doing the Will of God. It essentially is a 12-step program and involves cult-like manipulation and mind control techniques.

One writer 's detailed reasoned arguments can be read by clicking here.

Brief reviews and responses of the Blackaby and King book are available at the well-respected Christian Discernment Ministries website.

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